cruelty free deodorant that works???

topic posted Thu, June 1, 2006 - 10:23 AM by  Unsubscribed
i'm frantically searching for a cruelty free deodorant for myself and teen daughter.
we've tried about everthing in that range and no go, natural just doesn't work...especially for active, stressed out hormonal teens!

anyone here using a cruelty free (non tested on animals) product that actually WORKS???
please share!
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  • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

    Thu, June 1, 2006 - 6:06 PM
    The best natural, cruelty free deodorant I have ever tried (and thus, still use) is Nutracell by SAFE. It has no aluminium salts like the crystals do and contains zinc and colloidal silver which seem to do the trick. Its an Australian product but you can buy it online at www.eternalyouth.com.au/category67_1.htm . Its a bit expensive but it lasts my teenage daughter and I for months and months so definitely worth the money I think.
    • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

      Thu, June 1, 2006 - 7:55 PM
      Tom's of Maine *Long-Lasting* deodorant roll-on. They finally put out something that lasts. The entire day, even. It's aluminum-free, does not contain animal or artificial ingrediants, and hasn't been tested on animals. I got mine at the grocery store. Lavendar-scented and lovely. Best deodorant I've ever used. Like the one mentioned above, it contains zinc, which seems to be the miracle factor.
      • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

        Fri, June 2, 2006 - 7:22 PM
        i'll have to try the long lasting version. we got the lemongrass deodorant a few weeks ago, and while it smelled divine, it worked on me for only about an hour before it started to quit. it lasts a bit longer on my bf, so body chemistry is clearly a factor.

        i'll have to give the crystal another shot...it didn't work for me before.
        • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

          Sat, June 3, 2006 - 12:42 PM
          Yeah, the regular Tom's just doesn't work at all. The long-lasting version is relatively new, and it's amazing!

          So if you've tried Tom's before and didn't like it, just know that the Long-Lasting version is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT DEODORANT. I just can't recommend it highly enough.
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    Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

    Fri, June 2, 2006 - 1:26 AM
    I've been using Tom's of Maine Body Deodorizing spray, which comes in most of the same fragrances as the deodorants. Last night I went to a show, used both, and didn't smell at all--even after dancing frantically all night. I used just the spray today, and it lasted. I don't know how it would work for a hormonal teen, but I was surprised at how effective it was.

    A little peeved that Tom's is now owned by Colgate (grrr) so haven't sorted out where I'm at with that.

    And Nivea, unfortunately, uses lanolin in some of their products, so I keep away. Not only is it an animal-by-product, but I'm allergic.
    • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

      Sun, June 25, 2006 - 3:15 AM
      I am terribly allergic to Tom's. They are now owned by Colgate? Hmm.
      The crystal doesn't work for me, but I love Lush's deoderant. I use aromaco and fuwari- they work fairly well and haven't made me break out in hives. It's just that Lush is a wee bit expensive... sigh.
  • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

    Fri, June 2, 2006 - 2:49 AM
    I have tried a lot of natural deoderants that are cruelty-free, and the only one I've found that really works consitently is a product by Nature's Gate and it is NOT tested on animals. This stuff works so well I only have to use it about once or twice a week. It comes either unscented, which I prefer and is called "Winter Clean", or in 3 other fragrences that have names based on the other 3 seasons, spring, summer, and fall. I know this stuff will work for your teen daughter (therefore you too), because I had really stinky pits and nothing worked for me before this. The formula in it is a patented combo of witch hazel and oak gall which litterally kills the bacteria that causes the bad odor. I can't say enough about it, this stuff rocks. It also doesn't have any of that stuff in it that's bad for you, like aluminum, etc.

    p.s. extra added bonus: if you swipe this stuff on the bikini area after shaving, you will get *no* razor burn/bumps!
    • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

      Fri, June 2, 2006 - 7:01 AM
      what's the name of this product by Nature's Gate? I couldn't find anything like that on their website.
      Bibia
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        Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

        Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:27 AM
        www.mothernature.com/Shop/Br...m/cr/n/6

        they seem to have a lot of different deodorants...inluding those mentioned here. :-)
        • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

          Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:38 AM
          I like Nature's Gate, Organic Fruit Blend - Red Pear & Persimmon
          it smells yumm, it works, and it's more than cruelty free.
          It is free of the aluminum stuff, and any parabens which are both toxic.
          It's good to know what's in that stuff because there are no health and safety
          regulations on beauty care products.
          The manufacturers can put any old toxic by product in anything.
          And, our tender juicey arm pits can soak it right up!
          Here is one list of some of the worst stuff.
          www.naturalhealthway.com/artic...s.html
          • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

            Fri, June 2, 2006 - 10:15 AM
            After rereading the ingredients in the link I just posted I realized something.
            The products containing these ingredients may not be tested on animals.
            But, these ingredients themselves surely have been tested on animals.
            Because when they say "some studies have shown toxic..." or " research has proven toxic...."
            they sure were not studying or researching these effects on humans.
            So non-toxic and safe for you, is also truly cruelty free.
      • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

        Sat, June 3, 2006 - 3:15 AM
        Bibia--
        Google "Nature's Gate Winter Clean Deodorant Stick", and lots of links will pop up. The various links should have the ability to look at or find the 3 other scented versions of Nature's Gate Deodorant too (Spring, Summer, and Fall).
        • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

          Sat, June 3, 2006 - 3:20 AM
          BiBia, round 2--
          So I just googled "Nature's Gate" by itself, and it's weird because I think the one I'm talking about that makes the deodorant based on the seasons of the year is a differant company than the one with the website. But if you google the first thing I told you it will take you to the product I'm talking about. :-)
  • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

    Sat, June 3, 2006 - 3:01 PM
    I was using Tom's natural "stick" deodorant for about a year - the only thing is that of course as it is only a deodorizer and not anti-perspirant you may pick up a bit of your own scent if you do anything other than laze around all day. ; ) However the products scent (it was "Candola" I believe) melds nicely with our natural "parfum". When I would sweat profusely, say after a long walk or other excersize, I recall my ex telling me I did not smell rotten - he said the opposite which is that I smelled "good - like fresh nugs" 0_o Heheh.

    Anyway, I used a lavender-scented roll on deodorant after this for about 2 weeks and I couldn't stand the way it felt under my arm as well as the *sharp* scent I was taking in. I've resorted to common commercial anti-perspirant/deoderant as I'm fed up with these comical "Naatural, sweet scented, perfume/soap on a stick" products. I'd be delighted to hear of another natural deodorant worth trying again. : )
  • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

    Sun, June 4, 2006 - 8:59 PM
    OK, I tried the crystal once before, and at the time I was convinced it was useless, so I tossed it. But with health concerns about the ingredients in antiperspirants and the possible link (listed on the American Cancer Society webpage) to cancer in women who shave, I took interest in this thread and was inspired to do a little more research on the crystal thing. Surprisingly I found that many people find it to be, to say the least, not useless. I decided to give it another try this weekend, e.g. not at work.

    Test # 1: dance. Now if you don't dance maybe you don't know how much sweating is involved, even 60 seconds in. Well, I had a 2 hour class, followed by lunch, then another hour of dancing, then another break, then another hour of dancing. I was so freaking paranoid that I was doing sniff checks about every 5 minutes. I brought a backup "real" deoderant just in case.

    I was amazed. I did not need the backup.

    Mid-day I did sprinkle on a little baby powder, but more as a pre-emptive measure to partially stay my paranoia. But I tell you, after all that, a drenched bra and tank top from the first class, then a drenched T shirt later, I WAS NOT FUNKY!!!!! It wasn't that there was no detectable smell, but that the smell was not funk.

    Let me explain - by all rights I should have been *ripe*. And I put my nose all up in there, a task I undertook with no joy whatsoever. But I had to sniff hard and repeatedly just to detect anything. That alone means that the crystal does *something*. The jury is still out, as I'm so accustomed to an artificial fragrance there. But so far I must say that I am pleasantly surprised.

    I believe the rocks are all pretty much the same, but in case anyone is interested, the one I got is the creatively titled "Naturally Fresh Deoderant Crystal" - clear bottle, blue top. My highly developed selection process follows: it was the only crystal available at CVS. Ingredients: natural mineral salts (ammonium alum)

    Suffice it to say that I would like to keep using this for a while. I will try a week at work, and in the mean time will report back on Test #2: karate class. The main difference between that and Test #1 as far as we are concerned here will not be rigor, but rather attire, or shall we say ventilation? Dance - tank top & sweats. Karate - uniform. It's essentially the equivalent of working out for an hour in heavy trousers and a closed blazer. Stay tuned!
    • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

      Sun, June 4, 2006 - 9:15 PM
      Oh, I meant the National Cancer Institute, not the American Cancer Society. Go here if you want to read more.

      www.cancer.gov/cancertopi...Risk/AP-Deo
      • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

        Tue, June 6, 2006 - 7:41 PM
        i read the article, and while i consider myself extremely cynical of these arguments for a number of reasons, it was interesting to see the age of diagnosis point.

        i do wonder if there might be other facts that were not ruled out here--there is always a difference between correlation and causality. but anyway, interesting reading.
        • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

          Wed, June 21, 2006 - 5:48 AM
          To Star Fish:
          You and your daughter may want to check out Lavilin deodorant www.zoomlavilin.com.
          The Green Guide did a recent survey where customers rated the best eco-friendly deodorants and this deodorant was recommended. Supposedly, it's so effective that a single application can eliminate odors for 7 days!

          About a year ago, I decided to make the switch from antiperspirants that contained harmful aluminum and other chemicals to all natural deodorants because I was concerned about the adverse affects to my health. i.e. possible links to breast cancer etc... I've tried several brands which work okay during the fall and winter months. But when the HOT, HUMID, and HAZY Dog Days of Summer roll around, they fall way short of eliminating underarm ODOR. And isn't this the main reason we all wear them in the first place-to DE-ODOR-IZE our underarms? I don't know about anyone else, but during the summer, I can get down right funky and sweaty and smell just like a man-which is not cute. So, I am on a quest to find my HG deodorant: An effective, all natural deodorant that is eco-friendly and not tested on animals. I plan to purchase the Lavilin deodorant soon.

          For those of you who are also looking for your HG deodorant, but don't want to spend your money on the full size bottles in case they end up not working, mothernature.com offers sample sizes of many of the brands recommended on this thread. I just placed an order for samples of the Lavilin, Crystal Stone by Crystal Body (recommned by Treja), Crystal Roll-On by Naturally Fresh (recommended by Nico- Hey Nico, I'm looking forward to reading the results of your Test#2!) and Jason long lasting deodorant with Tea Tee Oil. I will use each one for a week and post back my results. While I'm waiting for my order to arrive, I am going to pick up the Nature's Gate brand that was recommend here. Any deodorant that can be used once or twice a week is right up my alley.
          • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

            Sat, June 24, 2006 - 2:48 PM
            I'm the one who reccomended the Natures' Gate brand, and I'm glad you posted what you did because it looks like the unscented stuff I talked about about has been/is being discontinued--I know, horrors (and pure stupidity on the part of the company in my opinion, *sigh*)!

            Do you know if the Lavalin stuff comes in unscented or not? I'm going to have to find something to replace my Nature's Gate when it runs out (in about a year--hey, maybe *that's* why they discontinued it ;-), and the Lavalin sounds like it'll be just what I'm looking for. Of course I can always google it on my own....
          • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

            Sat, June 24, 2006 - 7:56 PM
            Sorry to leave you hanging, grrlsix! :)

            OK, results of test #2: good. I have been using the crystal consistently since that last post for work, dance and karate. It's been nearly a month of high-humidity Philadelphia weather. I'm not only still using the stuff, but also have no plans as of yet to switch to anything else.

            The one drawback to the crystal is that you have to put it on right after showering or washing the area, which makes late day touchups a non option unless you can wash your armpits. Since the crystal is a barrier it can't be useful if applied overtop sweaty, bacteria-ridden, late-day armpits. But the roll-on option is a good portable backup if you have some wet wipes or something to clean up with first before you dry off and reapply. I think that's reasonable.

            As for me, I was on a trip and can't find the roll on I bought with the crystal, so I can't report back on using it as a late day backup after using wipes (though I love the way it sounds in theory). I do have a scented body spray that I have kept handy (paranoia, you recall) to use not on my underarms but on my shoulders and torso at such times as I would typically be reapplying regular deoderant. The good news is that it hasn't really been necessary, but it does make me feel a little better just in case :p

            OK, so essentially I say to anyone thinking about this, try it for a week. Why not?

            How I use the crystal:
            After showering I dry off, then wet a hand and wipe it on the skin to make sure my underarms are a little wet. (You can, of course, just leave them wet without drying off, but that could leave them a little too wet for the crystal to leave anything on you). I pass the crystal once under the faucet, then I apply for about 20 seconds under each arm to make sure the whole area is well-covered (paranoia finally serves me well!). I find that the crystal should move smoothly over your skin. If it stutters, your skin is not wet enough. If it's super slick, your skin is a little too wet.
            As it dries it leaves a very thin film that you can juuust barely see if you really look, but then it disappears. Just wetting the crystal and applying it to a dry underarm did not work as well for me - that's what I did the first time I ever tried this crystal thing, and as mentioned, I tossed it.

            Deoderant balls: gone. Ring-around-the-armpit: gone. I still feel like I'm experimenting, but again, so far so good, and no plans to switch out. Thanks to prior posters for the tips, and everyone else, keep the tips/questions/suggestions coming.
            • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

              Sat, June 24, 2006 - 8:09 PM
              [addendum]
              Oh yeah - the crystal is great, and the roll-on worked the few times I tried it before I lost it. But the spray mist? SUCKS!

              DO NOT BUY THE SPRAY MIST. It clearly doesn't have enough of the actual mineral dissolved in it. It was just like I sprayed on water. The good news there is that I noticed a difference between when I used that and when I used the crystal because the crystal actually did something. So *do* try the crystal or the roll on. :)
              [/addendum]
              • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

                Mon, June 26, 2006 - 5:40 AM
                To the... (I hope I'm spelling your name correctly!):
                I picked up the Nature's Gate on Saturday at the Vitamin Shoppe (they are having a sale -25% off all personal care products in case anyone is interested). They were out of stock, so I had them special order both the stick and roll-on in three of the scents. When the salesperson went to place my order, she told me that the deodorant stick version was being discontinued. I had decided to just purchase the roll-on in Spring Fresh because the roll-on does not have the "Propylene Glycol" that is in the stick version. Both my boyfriend and I are trying this deodorant together for 7 days to see how it stacks up. We're on day two and so far, it's been holding up in extremely humid conditions. I will post our results after my one week trial.

                RE: Lavilin Deodorant
                According to the website, it doesn’t list it as being “scented”. When I get my sample, I’ll post back and let you know.

                To Nico:
                Thanks for updating us with your Test#2. I definitely agree with your statements about the spray version of the crystal stone nto working as good as the solid crystal. My boyfriend and I decided to try a crystal deodorant product earlier this year called PITROK www.pitrok.co.uk. Apparently, it’s all the rage in the UK and I haven’t been able to find any health stores on the east coast that carry it, so we ordered it from a website. He ordered the crystal push-up stick version and I ordered the scented spray version. While the stick worked for us both, the spray version did absolutely nothing for me! No matter how many methods I used to apply it: w/wet underarms, w/o wet underarms, applying it liberally or only applying a small amount-it never worked for me. Surprisingly, the spray worked just as well for my boyfriend. Maybe it’s the hormone factor? Go figure! The pitrok stick started failing me a week ago during the last week of this horrid Hot/Hazy//Humid weather. I would have to reapply doing mid-day because my underarms started smelling musty. Not good.
                • Re: cruelty free deodorant that works???

                  Mon, June 26, 2006 - 5:58 AM
                  P.S.
                  Nico,
                  Thanks also for the tip about how to apply the crystal product. I would basically follow the instructions by dampening the crystal and applying to "dry" underarms after a shower. I would only do it for a few seconds under each underarm. Maybe wetting the crystal and then also applying to wet underarms is the key.
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                    Field Report on Liquid Rock (KMF)

                    Mon, June 26, 2006 - 9:25 AM
                    so after all this discussion i found myself in whole foods and happened upon the KMF product. since i like patchouli, i bought that flavor, but they had all the others as well. i previously tried tom's long lasting---the stuff we had was the long lasting and it was anything but. my BF uses it and we both love it on him...but my body chemistry just does not work with it and after an hour it's bad news. i don't sweat daintily like a young girl, i SWEAT. a LOT.

                    i've been road testing KMF for about a month. during that time, temperatures have soared above 95 several times (and our house does not have aircon), i've presented in front of 30+ people, and gone on two camping trips that also involved all night dancing. plus fire spinning, running around all day, and various other tasks.

                    i am very, very pleased. the liquid rock can be applied anytime and still works...you don't need to shower or clean up first. it wasn't scratchy on my skin which is the experience i've had with the rock you have to use water with. the patchouli scent is definitely noticeable so if you or your SO is not a fan, get another scent.

                    net, i'm going to keep using it, and hopefully toss the security blanket i've been holding onto "just in case" i have a big meeting and can't afford to sweat it. after more time in field i'll feel good about deciding one way or the other.

                    still not convinced that the commercial stuff is truly harmful, but i like the scent of this product more than any other options out there (commercial or otherwise) so i'd use it regardless.