Diva friends,
I was surfing the 'net one day and found a site about cleansing your face with oil. The homemade recipe was olive oil and castor oil mixed together in a certain percentage for your type of skin. I've been so bummed and upset about my skin and getting older isn't helping matters at all! So I decided to mix a 70%/30% mix of olive oil and castor oil (more olive than castor) for oily skin and followed the directions to the hilt and low and behold.....my skin looks 1000% better and the best thing is that it's calmed down the redness in my rosacea skin! I absolutely couldn't believe it. No blackheads, no whiteheads, no milia, my bumps are going away slowly but I can tell they are not as big as they were and my skin looks so much better to me. I will have to find the link to pass this on, but if you google "oil cleansing method" it's either the first or second entry. I don't know if will work on everyone, but it sure worked for me. Mom was right, she always cleansed her face with this stuff that was oil based and she had great looking skin way into her early 90s before she became ill. I'm just one happy camper about my face!
I was surfing the 'net one day and found a site about cleansing your face with oil. The homemade recipe was olive oil and castor oil mixed together in a certain percentage for your type of skin. I've been so bummed and upset about my skin and getting older isn't helping matters at all! So I decided to mix a 70%/30% mix of olive oil and castor oil (more olive than castor) for oily skin and followed the directions to the hilt and low and behold.....my skin looks 1000% better and the best thing is that it's calmed down the redness in my rosacea skin! I absolutely couldn't believe it. No blackheads, no whiteheads, no milia, my bumps are going away slowly but I can tell they are not as big as they were and my skin looks so much better to me. I will have to find the link to pass this on, but if you google "oil cleansing method" it's either the first or second entry. I don't know if will work on everyone, but it sure worked for me. Mom was right, she always cleansed her face with this stuff that was oil based and she had great looking skin way into her early 90s before she became ill. I'm just one happy camper about my face!
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Re: unbelievable discovery for myself *happy dance*
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 12:46 PMI found that same site, and have been reluctant to try it. Rub OIL on my face? It's so counter-intuitive. But if it worked for you... -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:16 PMI was so a non believer in this method because I had the same reaction "use oil on my oily face?" But I'm just saying that it did work for me and maybe it will work for others too. I just can't believe how different my face looks!
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:59 PM>I found that same site, and have been reluctant to try it. Rub OIL on my face? It's so counter-intuitive. But if it worked for you... <
chiming in~
Worked great for me, too! My skin has never been happier. :-) I use a mix of castor, olive, and a little bit of tea tree oil; fabulous results.
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:29 PMI once tried pouring olive oil on my body and rubbing it into my skin and allowing my body to absorb it all. I was shocked that quenched my skin and I was glowing. I recommend olive oil to anyone instead of expensive creams.
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:31 PMBibia,
these are the first 2 links on Google. which did you use?
www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/
eightofspades.vox.com/library...hod.html
and does the hot wash cloth or rinsing with hot water aggravate your rosacea? normally I need to avoid anything hot for that reason.
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 2:00 PMYes people, oil. Oil is what we are starving our skin of when we wash with harsh detergents/cleansers, so our skin (even oily, which can overproduce if you are overwashing which is norm. the cause) loves it when we feed it oil! -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 2:33 PMBut make sure its oil you'd be willing to drink (Olive is a great choice), right? NOT mineral oil. Your skin is the biggest organ in your body and will absorb whatever you put on it. -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 8:44 AMIck, no mineral oil for me thanks!
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 4:20 PMI've been wanting to try this too!! I'm hesitant because I don't know what kind of oils to use.
Where did you find the castor oil?
I have olive oil in the kitchen; can I use the same stuff?
Bibia, I'm glad it's working for you!!!!! :) -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 4:40 PMI've been using castor oil around my eyes and on eyelashes, seems to make the lashes grow better. It's really cheap in the drugstore. I got a 2 ounce bottle for about $1.49 -
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Mon, April 28, 2008 - 12:44 PMMy Russian waxing gal recommends using castor oil on the eyebrows to encourage growth when the brows are sparse or not equally situated... -
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 4:44 PMi just read about the castor oil on the eyelashes from a book called Passport to Beauty. The writer had gotten the advice from a Russian friend.
must be a sign...............") -
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 10:51 PMI just started using a bit of castor oil in my bath and WOW! My skin feels amazing. My sweetie commented on just how gorgeous and supple my skin is (a *new* compliment, so I take this as a good sign that it's working) and no need for lotion after bathing. The tiny beads of oil that collect on the surface of the bath end up moisturizing me completely as I step out and rather than towel drying I now just rub the excess back into my skin.
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:21 AM-K,
that sounds really interesting... how much do you use? are you just doing straight up castor oil? since neat castor helps clear up pimples bet this would be a good bath oil option for oily skin prone to breaking out on the back!
i find castor kinda sticky feeling- when you rub the excess into your skin does it absorb fast or do you have to wait awhile to get dressed??
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:34 AMI just pour in about a tablespoon to the bathwater as it's running. I haven't had any issues with the stickiness factor when I do this as the oily beads just sort of rest on the top of the bathwater and grab onto my skin as I get out. I do then rub in any excess before toweling off. So far so good and the really dry skin I often get on my elbows is now GONE.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:53 AM-K,
cool, thanx, i think i will be giving this a try!
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 6:12 PMcastor oil is a good choice for acne too- a few drops "neat" on the bump makes it go away in a few days time.
(though castor oil is Not one i would drink!) -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 7:11 PMwell, the primary use for castor oil is laxative, but I'll stick to eating my fiber! -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 8:31 PMcastor oil can be bought at the grocery store or drugstore. -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 10:24 PMY'know, I tried olive oil on my face once. I just used olive oil, no castor oil, and I rubbed it in with a cotton ball at night. But when I woke up in the morning, my face was all red! It was odd. I normally have a lot of red in my face, and the color just comes out more when it's irritated. So I didn't want to try olive oil as a moisturizer any more, but I wonder: if I mixed in some castor oil would my face be happier? Anyone have any experience with this? -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 9:10 AMWell, my skin didn't turn red, no, but I think I tried the cleansing method with just olive oil and found it doesn't work so well without castor. Moisturizing, yes, not so much cleansing.
My skin loves oil, and so do lots of people's skin...but I wouldn't mess with it if it clearly irritates yours. Or maybe try a different brand or mixture, and do a "patch test" on your arm to make sure it doesn't do that.
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 9:40 AMsounds like your skin dislikes olive oil! you might try grape seed (it's much lighter & has good properties but goes rancid fast, as do castor & olive) if you can handle nut oils mixing the oils that go rancid fast with macadamia nut oil (has a looong shelf life & good properties) will extend their shelf life (as will adding mixed tocopherols or rosemary oleoresin)
you can google "carrier oil properties" and get lots of info on the shelf life and properties of tons of different oils.
olive is not your only option- just the most traditional.
if you find something that works well for you, let us know.
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 9:37 AMIs this something that people with non-oily skin would benefit from too? -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 3:46 PMI read on the site that different skin types use different combos of the oils. 70/30 (30% - Castor) is for oily skin, then you change the %ages for other skin types (60/40 for dry skin - that type of thing)
After doing many searches for the OCM, I didn't find any negative responses.
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 8:48 PMI get the impression it's for all skin types, you just need to do a bit of fiddling with the proportions of oils to figure what works best for you.
Castor oil can be drying if there's too much, and too much olive oil can be...I dunno, greasy? Too oily?
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 10:57 PMJust be careful with castor oil as it's also a natural astringent. Sounds counter-intuitive I know, as it's an oil, but it is. It will pull toxins out of your body internally and externally depending on how you use it, so just start with a minimal amount and see how you adjust. My mother used castor oil for damn near any ailment I ever had as a kiddo (it was the litmus test she used to determine whether I was actually *sick enough* to stay home from school! haha)
I DO still use it for many ailments, and use a small amount on my face once a week mixed with almond oil. That said, just be careful cuz it is VERY bio-available. More so than any other bean or seed based oil.
-K
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 11:29 PMK, what do you mean by "bio-available"? I was just recommended by my friend/acupucturist to use castor oil externally to extract toxins from my liver. -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 11:42 PMBio-available simply means that your body absorbs and/or digests it easily and without obstacles. In the case of castor oil it is SO bio-available that a small amount goes a long, long way whether taken internally or externally. Castor oil has a different molecular structure from any other naturally occurring oil and more or less forces one's body to regenerate at a more rapid rate on a cellular level. This is a great thing when used in moderation!
My boyfriend began using castor oil packs along with baking soda for a foot fungus he picked up years ago when sailing the Caribbean, and it worked SO WELL that his foot became sore due to losing all the callouses that had built up. He had to take a break for a week or so and then went back to using this mixture again and now his foot issue is nearly gone. (He had 1/2 deep fissures on one heel!)
Castor oil is not to be trifled with. It's phenomenal, but deserves the some serious respect.
-K
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 9:22 AMHi K, you said you use castor oil once/ week on your face; how do you use it? thx! -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 9:34 AMHi Connie. I use an almond oil base and just a smidge of castor oil. I put the almond oil in the palm of my hand and probably use what amounts to a tablespoon, then add about a teaspoon of the castor oil. I only use it on my problem areas--- around my eyes, my forehead and neck and laugh lines. I used to use cod liver oil and that worked really well too but the almond/castor blend smells oh-so-much better!
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 7:36 PMSo are you saying that using on your face daily would act in a similar way as taking it internally?
I know there are reasons to be cautious with it taken internally (hello, people died from torture with it in Mussolini's fascist Italy), but never heard there was any particular danger in using it externally, unless you count dry skin. Is there any reason that cleaning out toxins would be bad?
And I'm not a scientist, but...of course it's got a different molecular structure from other oils. Every distinct thing has a different molecular structure. I don't know what you mean, there. Do you mean that it's like jojoba oil--an anomaly from other oils, because it's actually a liquid wax, not oil, so it has different working properties? (though obviously, with different properties--I'm trying to make a parallel) -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 10:09 PMi used just the olive oil and it rocked for me! i am so excited. i have that whole acne prone, yet dry, yet sensitive thing, and it seemed to work like a charm. thank you sooooo much for this.
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 11:54 PMCastor oil is a triglyceride of fatty acids. Almost 90 percent of its fatty acid content consists of ricinoleic acid. To my knowledge, ricinoleic acid is not found in any other substance except castor oil.
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Ricinoleic acid, a monounsaturated, 18-carbon fatty acid, is unusual in that it has a hydroxyl functional group on the twelfth carbon. This functional group causes ricinoleic acid (and castor oil) to be unusually polar, and also allows chemical derivatization that is not practical with most other seed oils.
The castor seed contains ricin, a toxic protein removed by cold pressing and filtering.[7] However, harvesting castor beans is not without risk, [8] allergenic compounds found on the plant surface can cause permanent nerve damage, making the harvest of castor beans a human health risk. India, Brazil and China are the major crop producers and the workers suffer harmful side effects from working with these plants.
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Anyway, from my understanding castor oil is absorbed directly into the lymphatic system and when used medicinally can yield very positive results for folks suffering from a number of ailments where their lymphatic system has been compromised. However, the reason why I offer a warning is also due to it's ability to be absorbed through the skin directly into the lymphatic nodes. I'm just generally wary of using anything--even 'good things'-- in large doses or with regularity when it has the ability to alter our bodies natural balance. That said, I do still use castor oil for a few things but always in moderation and not long term.
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 8:08 AMI've been using olive oil as an eye makeup remover and moisturizer for years, it's awesome....I know a few people who had a bad reaction for the first few weeks since the fruit acids (I think they are fruit acids) were cleaning the toxins out...they stuck with it for a couple of weeks and when their skin adjusted it was super clear...I'm sold and it's WAY less expensive than creams and lotions :-) Thanks for the tips, I'm going to try the castor oil mix :-)
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 8:13 AMOoh. Thanks!
You're right about moderation, but...with anything not regulated and tested extensively, it's hard to know how much is "too much." Now I'm wondering if there's any reason I shouldn't use it daily in my oil mixtures--it's a pretty small amount, but it's in there.
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 4:45 PM"allergenic compounds found on the plant surface can cause permanent nerve damage, making the harvest of castor beans a human health risk. India, Brazil and China are the major crop producers and the workers suffer harmful side effects from working with these plants. "
wait a minute. I just caught that. I'm looking this up elsewhere now to confirm it. but...
so is this really a "healthy" thing if the product we'd be using (Castor Oil) causes other people serious health risks? I mean, it sounds good to not be putting strange chemicals on our skin or purchasing a mass produced product made by a plant that is likely releasing chemicals into the air or water. but I'm kinda iffy about having good skin at the expense of some low income worker's nerve damage. like, sorry about your permanent disability, but gee my skin looks great! ;) -
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Re: unbelievable discovery for myself *happy dance*
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 9:48 PMDid you find anything Ms. D? I agree, shouldn't use anything that is known to cause others harm. I just happened to have a bottle of it and wanted to try this out. I hope there's a safe way to harvest this stuff! -
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 10:21 PMSandi,
I haven't been able to find info yet. Anything that clearly discusses the subject all points to the same source, so that amounts to really a single source stating the nerve damage to workers harvesting it. But I'm not really accessing google super powers today, so I need to look some more. The other concern I've discovered is that it's reported in many places to be a resource for creating biological weapons. The "mash" that's leftover from the harvesting can be sold to questionable sources to be used to make poisons for things like neurotoxins. So that creates another ethical issue: how does one know that the castor oil they're buying isn't directly funding some military nerve gas or something?
I don't usually try to get too hung up on this stuff, but I don't want to be so vain that I'm willing to have clear skin at such dramatic expense of others so I figured it's worth looking into. Which is not to say that anyone currently using it is some kind of people-killing monster. :) I mean, if you already have it at home and want to try it out, go for it.
The thing is that castor oil has been used for decades (at least), for a number of healing properties so I figure there must be a consumer-responsible way to purchase it. It sounds like such an amazing (and also scary) substance that I'd hate to just summarily dismiss it. I've read that it can be used for just about everything: as laxative, abortive, labor inducer, skin remedy, bug repellent, and it's mentioned everywhere as a "hot" substance for biodiesel fuel.
Thus far it looks like purchasing castor oil harvested and produced in the US is more safe re: the above. Castor oil coming from Brazil, India and China is stated to be the most risky. -
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Mon, April 28, 2008 - 12:54 PMI agree with your concerns, Ms D. I don't want to use a product, no matter how great it might work for me, that is harvested or distilled at a great health risk to others.
My other concern with castor oil, since it's so bio-available, is whether it's grown with pesticides and such. The last thing I'd want is to use an oil from a plant that was doused with chemicals, the residue which would undoubtedly be leached into the oil. If I am paying all this money to eat organic, it only makes sense to use organic or chemical-free products on one's body as well.
Lastly, how is castor oil extracted? Some methods use harsh solvents to extract the oil from the seed or nuts, and this is a huge concern. I take Evening Primrose Oil for the GLA benefits, and I always make sure it's hexane-free.
So many questions that need to be researched before I can feel comfortable in using this product. I just don't have the free time to do so today, but if anyone can offer any info on these concerns, that would be great! -
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 1:01 PMI've switched about mid-week to using grapeseed oil instead of the jojoba oil. I also started adding a couple of drops of tea tree oil too. So far, so good. I actually look forward to doing this every night! My only concern is that I know I'm not using the right proportions of the oils consistently, since I'm "eyeballing" it when I pour it into my hand. What I need is some sort of a dark bottle to pre-measure/pre-mix and store the oils in. I'm thinking I probably need a dark bottle since the castor oil comes in a dark bottle, the grapeseed oil comes in a can, and the tea tree oil comes in a dark bottle too. Does anyone know where to find dark bottles? Heck, I'd even use one of those old fashioned dark glass bottles with a dropper! Suggestions?
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 2:00 PMI suspect, don't know of course, that over exposure to any chemical, mineral, etc., could be harmful. It could be a simple matter of saturation. That's almost never good for anyone, and protection is probably indicated. But again I'm unfamiliar with the situation. Just thinking 'out loud'.
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