Extreme diet regimens and health/ skin hair

topic posted Thu, October 1, 2009 - 10:54 AM by  Jewel
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I have a lot of friends who spend a lot of time, energy, money, restricted socializing, etc on extreme diet regimens, such as vegan, raw, etc., excluding many foods as unpure, chronic use of 'cleanses', fasts, enemas, etc. It is foreost in their minds, conversations, and socializations, and may be argumentative or dismissive when challenged for proof.

As a former vegetarian, I found their explanations and lectures often lacking in critical thinking or real objective research and support, and I began to wonder what the extremism was really about. Plus I noticed that many of these people got sick more often, and for longer periods, than I did, and also broke bones more easily, and had underweight, skin, fertility, failure-to-thrive, and hair problems.

Finally, I ran across some articles on othorexia, where people exclude many food options based on purported impurity (often spiritual) and personal control, bordering on anxiety problems, anorexia, and OCD. They tend to associate with only other pure foodists, and condescend to people who eat differently than they do.

I am not saying that all health-conscious people fall into this category, but I bring it to your attention as an FYI, since there are new studies that suggest there is a growing subset of people with perfectionist, self-esteem, body image, and eating disorders who may fall into this category. And it seems to be a growing trend.

You can google for links, but here is a quiz -

www.skwigg.com/id8.html

There are also more academic and technical studies on this trend, which I leave to you to google...

Just FYI - peace.


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Jewel
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  • Re: Extreme diet regimens and health/ skin hair

    Thu, October 1, 2009 - 12:13 PM
    i use cyperus rotundus (xiang fu) and schizandra and peony (wu wei zi and bai shou) internally, with kombochu tea, 2x a day to clean the blood and clear the skin. Kombucha itself will moisturize the face, internally, if drank 2-3x a day.
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    Fri, October 2, 2009 - 2:09 PM
    I really like that Skwigg...I've been following her blog for about 5 years...it's been really interesting. I was borderline orthorexic for a year or so...no sugar, no meat, no dairy, no alcohol, workout every day. I actually did feel great, physically, but it was exhausting just THINKING about it all of the time. Now I try to be more of a "all in moderation" type. Makes life easier, though I'm not is as fabulous shape as I was then. I think that Skwigg has found a great balance between staying fit and healthy and enjoying food/friends/life. It's nice to see.
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      Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:07 AM
      Moderation is key. It keeps you from going insane. I tried doing all of those at once too. I had to decide which ones really mattered the most to me. It was easy for me to give up animal products. But sugar...well...I've never been a huge sugar fiend...so why worry about it? I'm a moderate drinker...so why worry?
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    Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:05 AM
    I would like to say...veganism is not extreme...especially when it is followed for ethical reasons. I have been vegetarian for many years due to the brutality of our food industry-and after discovering the complete moral breakdown of the American dairy industry-I went vegan. that was two years ago. I have never been healthier or stronger in my life.
    That is not to say that there aren't extreme diets....although-I love the idea of raw. If you read about the chemicals and hormones in our American diet-and look at obesity rates...and the health of the average individual in this country...well...I think that alone is rather compelling.
    As far as people feeling morally superior for their diets...well...food is political these days. Some people have way to much-while others are literally eating mudcakes to survive.To me-the mass-scale thoughtless butchering of animals in this country-to feed a generally fat and unhealthy society...well...it's gross. It reeks of a hate crime to me-the privileged versus the unprivileged. The grain it takes to raise beef could feed thousands of starving people.
    If one can live without harming others...who has the right to call that extreme? Yeah-it takes will power-and can be a little inconvenient...but I think the benefits far outweigh any of those factors.
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      Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:15 AM
      there is a chinese formula called 'seven treasures for beautiful skin and hair."
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        Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:31 AM
        For healthy skin also-I really like tons of avocado and olive oil
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          Wed, November 11, 2009 - 11:52 AM
          "For healthy skin also-I really like tons of avocado and olive oil "

          That's what people neglect-fats. You need fats, including olive oil, coconut oil, avocados-and when people cut the fat from their diets, that's what creates that ridiculous dry-skinned look. The low-fat movement is pretty much a sham, and it began only a few decades ago, and its rise in popularity has corresponded with the rise in many common diseases like cancer and diabetes.

          Sugar is pretty much the enemy IMO, even with my lack of complete discipline. And eating a good amount of fat, if taken with just protein, can actually kill sugar cravings. The unfortunate thing is that it's difficult to combine low carb with vegetarian, though it can be done by cutting out rice/bread, as I do even when eating Indian food now. And I include dairy, so that makes it easier.

          But anywho, I blam lack of fat for that weird look many healthnuts can have. I have healthy looking vegetarian friends, but they're more likely to do something like yoga or running, which are both good for the skin anyway.
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    Thu, November 19, 2009 - 4:46 PM
    thanks Jewel.

    I agree with you.

    Some of my 'pure' fruiends are very thin. Others have broken out faces and too thin. Oils and fats are necessary as is moderation in diet.

    Fanaticism and superiority do not create mentally healthy habits.
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      Thu, November 19, 2009 - 9:58 PM
      Has anyone noticed though-that more often the overly thin people with oily broken out skin tend to eat nothing but sugar and meat/dairy? Something about those two substances seem to thrash the human physical form.
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        Thu, November 19, 2009 - 10:05 PM
        i don't know that i would character type all thin meateating people that way, but of course, without lots of good veggies and such, the nutrients in meat and sugar laden foods will have to eliminate their excess thru the skin. the skin is the largest organ of the human body. :). In my observations, i have come to associate that 'look' you are talking about, with very water dehydrated people. So many people forget that 70% of our body (thus, our looks) is water. Its good to drink plenty of water daily, not any liquids, but water. pure water absorbs more impurities than anything else. Then we can flush them out the kidneys, rather than under our eyes, you know? :)
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          Thu, November 19, 2009 - 10:08 PM
          my personal experience, is that alcohol messes with the complexion the most, and makes one look more haggard, if consumed semi regularly. Don't get me wrong, i love good beer. But man, the wrinkles and bags are not worth the few hours buzz. But i am 45, and booze shows more in your features as one gets older. (generally speaking)
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          Fri, November 20, 2009 - 3:49 PM
          So true...maybe the whole trend is people not being aware of variety in their diet. Those who don't view food as fuel ...probably are less likely to pay attention to water consumption-and replace it with gallons of Mountain Dew. Man-I do love my caffeine though. I have to force myself to remember water.

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